
AB: When you graduated with your MFA did you want to teach?
AP: Yea, that’s what I was expecting to do after I got my
Masters.
AB: Did you get your position with Southwest right away?
AP: I got a job the following fall because a girl who graduated with
me got a job teaching Art Appreciation at Southwest and ended up moving. She
put me in touch with the department head.
I’ve been teaching there ever since. Well I taught there and MCA as an
adjunct for around three years. Then
Southwest offered me full time.
AB: That’s great that you have a full time position now. Is working full time too much sometimes? You
seem to be so prolific.
AP: I think it’s pretty easy for me to balance several things at once. I have been teaching 6 or 7 classes a semester since I became full time. I’ll get my painting class started on a project and then I’ll start on a painting of my own and let them watch what I’m doing. That has been helpful. When I have a show coming up then that’s all I do. I’ll just come home and work on art. Like this last show at Crosstown we had about 4 months. Clare came in November and we figured out the topics, then I just spent the next 2 and half months working on stuff everyday.
AP: Yea, we came up with a general idea with a couple different
topics. Then whenever we would finish a piece we would send an image to each
other. I think I did that dog chasing its tail and she said she was going to do
a snake that had caught its own tail, so we were having similar ideas. She had
a piece with a big Band-Aid across the drawing of a statue or a bust and I
ended up doing a piece with a weird little cut out Band-Aid that I pushed into
thick oil paint.
AB: Yea everything worked well together. It was a nice show.
AP: Thank you. We are going to try and pitch the show to some
places in New York and try to do a similar show there.
AP: No
AB: Are you from Memphis?
AP: I’m from Southeast Missouri.
AB: So you moved here for school?
AP: Yea moved here in 2007.
AB: Why did you decide to stay?
AP: Because I started teaching immediately.
AB: Yea, a job helps. Have you grown fond of Memphis?

AB: Were the grad studios downtown then?
AP: No they were in the office buildings down here. So for the
first year or so I just felt really weird here. I didn’t know where to go or
what to do. Eventually I got more comfortable and met a bunch of people.
AB: So I’m not familiar with much of your early work. Do you feel
like your work has changed drastically since your time here?
AP: Yea, I don’t know if I have much in here. This is one of the early ones I never
finished from undergrad. Ok, this is a really big one. (Pulls out a large
rolled up painting of a nude woman)
AP: There is this weird double figure over here. I was doing a
lot with this pattern. I don’t know, I don’t really like this painting.
AB: I would have never thought that was your painting. Yet you
haven’t thrown it away…
AP: Yea, after undergrad a lot of stuff I did was
figurative. I kept painting figures and
then I moved to St. Louis and took a painting class at a community college up
there. I started doing stuff like this.
I remember Dwayne Butcher came in and looked at one of these and was
like anybody can paint like that. When I
got in to grad school I didn’t know what I was supposed to do. They give you no
guidelines and I just sat in my studio making really terrible looking drawings
and paintings because I didn’t know what I was doing.
AB: Did you paint nude women a lot?
AP: Well I was going to start getting models and I just didn’t really want to
do that anymore but I didn’t know what to do. Have you seen any of my stuff
from grad school? A lot of it was really thick oil painting; I would carve in
to it. I got really scared to use
color.
AP: I remember having a critique and they questioned why I was
using certain colors. I was like, I don’t know, for aesthetic reasons. They
said I needed to come up with a reason for every color I chose. Then I got really nervous and didn’t paint
for a month and a half. They criticized the
way I was using a palette knife, it looked too much like a palette knife. Ultimately it made me think more about the
stuff I was making, and that was helpful.
When I got out of school I just did whatever the hell I wanted.
AB: Yea that’s a great feeling when you graduate and you don’t
have to answer to anyone.
AP: (pulling out thesis work from MCA)
AB: Are these dead bugs?
AP: Yea a lot of the pieces had to do with the Old
Testament. I was looking at the bible as
an evolutionist would instead of a creationist. So I was taking things that
humans had done to counteract the punishments that god was doing to people.
This one is a bug truck that people use to spray…one of them was the
flood. The titles of the pieces were all
just bible versus. So a lot of my stuff from grad school looked like this.
AB: So different from now, no color.
AP: Then I did animal heads in a similar style. Eventually I started doing some collaborative
stuff with Adam Farmer and Tad. I think doing the collaborative stuff really
helped me make stuff in a different way. I started thinking about how we would
each start something and then trade and work on top of what the other person
did, so then I started treating my own pieces like I was doing a collaborative
piece except I did both parts. So I really liked that, it made me think about
different ways to make art.
AB: So was it when you started collaborating that you began
making more humorous imagery?
AP: I guess so.
AB: You have such a distinct style now that you have had for a
while and I guess I’m just curious as to how you clicked in to that.

AB: Your most recent paintings particularly feel so sure of themselves,
I don’t see a lot of you repainting or struggling or being unsure of the
images. Maybe that is partly because they are so graphic…are you struggling
with this imagery or does it just come in to your head and you make it?
AP: I think sometimes if I get an idea and I don’t know exactly
how I want it to look then it’s a bit of a struggle, but usually I can imagine
what this stuff is going to look like in my head and for the most part it comes
out how I want it to look.
AB: Do you feel like you’ve reached a point where you are making
exactly what you want to make?
AP: I think I’m almost there.
AP: If I have a Yart Sale I sell a lot. I’ve sold several things
through the price is right. I’ve done more online sales in the past year or two
just because I am getting more of an online presence. I got a couple of images in this collage show
in Tate Britain.
AB: What!
AP: They did this big display of the collage work they have in
their collection and people submitted collage work and if you got picked they
would have rotating images on these screens. Then an architect from Paris saw
that show and he bought two of my paintings.
AB: Wow, so you have the Tate on your resume. That’s
awesome. When was that show?
AP: It was last year or
the year before. The show was called Texture and Collage.
AB: Is there anything I didn’t ask you about that you want to
talk about?
AP: I recently got representation in Dallas.
AB: Congratulations, that’s awesome!
AP: It’s called
the Ro2 Gallery. I got asked to be in a show at Central Track, which is an
artist residency program, they have a gallery. Trenton Doyle Hancock had a
piece in the show too so I thought that was cool. They saw that show and contacted
me. They had a price is right style show…then they asked if they could
represent me.
AP: So I am going to do a show there in June. I think they are
going to be a part of the Dallas Art Fair and they said they would put a few pieces
of mine in that.
AB: Well that’s big news. Have you already sent them a bunch of
work?
AP: I’ve sent them 11 or 12 and they’ve sold maybe 4 or so.
AB: What are you going do for your first show in Dallas?
AP: I don’t know because I’ve only shown a handful of pieces down
there and I’ve got probably over 200 pieces of art in here and I don’t know if
I should make a huge body of work. I could probably just take groups of these
that fit together and hang them in installations. I’ll probably end up making
new stuff just because I keep making new stuff anyway. I think the show will be up through June.